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Rock Band drum kit modded for pencil use
We've already seen a real drum kit modded for use with Rock Band, but that's unsurprisingly not the only bit of customization going on, as evidenced by this considerably scaled down kit created by David Yoon. While he hasn't provided a complete how-to, we're guessing quite a few folks out there will be able to follow his lead, with the mod consisting primarily of some felt covered tin lids, a pair of CDs and some foam for the foot pedal, and a couple of new piezo transducers from Radio Shack that replace the stock ones. Put that all together and you'll be reliving your desk-tapping days from high school in no time.
SanDisk Sansa Fuze leaked?Accessory maker HandStands appears to have a Sansa Fuze 3-in-1 accessory kit -- but SanDisk doesn't yet have a Sansa Fuze, you feeling us? We don't know much more than that at this point, but from what we can see it's either a big mix-up, a not-half-bad photoshop, or a forthcoming player that looks to take on the iPod classic with flash, not drive. Full-size ad version after the break.
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Rock officially offering Blu-ray (and HD DVD, still) drives on laptopsAlthough Rock began offering a Blu-ray option on its pricey gaming rigs soon after Toshiba threw in the HD DVD towel, prospective buyers were forced to specifically inquire in order to get one. Now, however, the company has finally bit the bullet and began offering internal BD drives as an option on its gamut of gaming laptops. Reportedly, Rock's CEO Nick Boardman proclaimed that he was "disappointed that HD DVD didn't make it," but noted that even if you have a machine on order right now, you can "stick with HD DVD, downgrade to DVD-RW or upgrade to Blu-ray" sans issue. Interestingly, the company is still offering up HD DVD drives as "standard," but we suppose it has to move that suddenly worthless inventory somehow, eh?

[Via Tech Digest]
ASUS does DisplayLink with VW223B 22-inch LCDHard to go wrong with a little bit of DisplayLink, and ASUS giving its VW223B the full USB treatment. The 1680 x 1050 display can accept a VGA plug, but the real magic happens over USB. You can plug up to six of these monitors into your PC and run them at full resolution, and the VW223B even includes a few USB plugs to help with the daisy-chain. The 5ms response time and 3000:1 sweeten the deal. No word on price or availability just yet, but we're starting to get a serious DisplayPort hankering up in here.
Navigon's new 2100 Max and 2120 Max do GPS widescreenThat 8110 flagship isn't the only new GPS device Navigon brought to CeBIT, and lucky for us the 2100 Max and 2120 Max are North America-bound. The "Max" aspect of these units refers to the new 4.3-inch widescreen touch displays -- the regular old 2100 only had a 3.5-inch screen. You'll still have to look further up Navigon's product line for perks like traffic info and Bluetooth, but 4.3-inches of GPS for $299 is nothing to sneeze at. The 2120 adds Canadian maps and sells for $329 CAD. Both devices can also work with Navigon's new FreshMaps subscription service, which updates your maps quarterly for the next three years for $79, and you can also pick up an add-on accessory for live traffic updates for $99. No word yet on when these will be shipping.
Digital Cube working on "world's smallest" UMPC
While we think we've found the undisputed champion of world's most bizarre UMPC, the company most noted for its broad array of DAPs and PMPs is purportedly "working on the world's smallest ultra mobile PC." Sadly, there's not a lot of details aside from that shown on the ginormous Digital Cube sign hoisted up at CeBIT, which explains the unsurprising inclusions of GPS navigation, wireless internet, mobile TV, and a media player. The splash screen proudly proclaims its ability to handle Windows XP, and while we can't be certain just yet, we certainly wouldn't put it past this outfit to just rebadge an existing unit and call it their own -- of course, it's not like that design scheme looks remotely familiar or anything. Nevertheless, this presently generic (and mysterious) handheld computer will hopefully be out for the masses here soon, so we'll be sure to snag some hands-on action with the bugger if the opportunity arises.
Navigon's 8110 PND coming in March?
For all you PND fans (and we know you're out there) hanging around waiting for a hot new piece of navigational gear, you might want to turn your attention to Navigon's 8000 series. Specifically, focus your laser beams on the 8110, a high-end portable GPS unit that boasts a slew of nasty features like a gigantic (by nav standards) 4.8-inch WQVGA screen, a 533MHz CPU (with a graphics accelerator), 128MB RAM, 512MB ROM, Bluetooth, an RDS/TMC receiver (for traffic information), and an FM transmitter. The unit will sport the company's new MobileNavigator 7 software, which features a more realistic, enhanced 3D road view, as well as new "lane assist" functions. The 8110 is rumored to be available around March in Europe (in time for CeBIT), and will be hitting shelves with a €499 price tag.
Navigon unveils 5100 / 7100 GPS units at CeBIT
While we suspect a fair amount of rebadging will be going down at CeBIT this year, we've got good news for those hoping for Navigon to step it up a notch. The firm is reportedly coming clean and finally manufacturing a unit of its own, and based on what we're seeing right now, it's not a half bad first effort. Both the 5100 and 7100 GPS navigation systems purportedly sport a Bluetooth handsfree calling system, "exclusive lane assistance," free traffic jam reports, voice input, and PIN code security as well. The higher-end 7100 boasts a 4.3-inch widescreen display, while the more budget-minded 5100 sticks with the more diminutive 3.5-inch variety, but both units do feature a new technology dubbed "Reality View" to give you a "more realistic" look at those oh-so-critical signs and upcoming roadways. Of course, both devices are slated solely for a European release, and while the 7100 series will be landing this summer for around €450 ($593) to €500 ($659) depending on map selection, the 5100 series will demand just €350 ($461) to €400 ($527).
Navigon 2100: 3.5-inches of 3D navigation for the cheap seats
Navigon is really speaking our language, and the language of our pocketbook, with the new Navigon 2100 navigation device. Not only is it a real charmer with curvy looks, 3D maps and 3.5-inches of touchscreen, but the device is hitting North America for the neighborly price of $249, and it looks like Europe will be getting a crack at it as well. Navigon of course isn't leaving in all the bells and whistles of the 5100 and 7100 -- like Bluetooth or real time traffic -- but there's at least some text-to-speech for reading you street names, and speed warnings to let you know when you're breaking 55. If you'd like you can even get in on real time traffic info for $99, and toss on some ZAGAT reviews for another $39. The 2100 will be out this fall.
Navigon's 8110 4.8-inch GPS unit arrives, right on schedule
Navigon is hitting CeBIT with some new and fairly expected hotness: the 8110. With a 4.8-inch WQVGA screen, full 3D maps and some sexy brushed metal looks, this one's going to turn some heads -- just promise you'll try and keep your eyes on the road, will you? There's a 533MHz processor under the hood, along with a independent graphics accelerator to handle the 3D. 512MB of ROM and 128MB of RAM round out the specs, which won't exactly make this your second computer, but should handle media from SD cards just fine. TMC Pro is also included for higher quality traffic info. The 8110 should hit Europe at the end of April for €449, no word on a US release yet.
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Navigon's new 2100 Max and 2120 Max do GPS widescreen
That 8110 flagship isn't the only new GPS device Navigon brought to CeBIT, and lucky for us the 2100 Max and 2120 Max are North America-bound. The "Max" aspect of these units refers to the new 4.3-inch widescreen touch displays -- the regular old 2100 only had a 3.5-inch screen. You'll still have to look further up Navigon's product line for perks like traffic info and Bluetooth, but 4.3-inches of GPS for $299 is nothing to sneeze at. The 2120 adds Canadian maps and sells for $329 CAD. Both devices can also work with Navigon's new FreshMaps subscription service, which updates your maps quarterly for the next three years for $79, and you can also pick up an add-on accessory for live traffic updates for $99. No word yet on when these will be shipping.
NAVIGON's New GPS Devices Earn Their Name
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HANNOVER, Germany and CHICAGO, March 4 /PRNewswire/ -- CeBIT -- NAVIGON, the fastest growing brand in GPS navigation, today unveiled the NAVIGON 2100 max and NAVIGON 2120 max personal navigation devices (PNDs) at CeBIT 2008, the world's most comprehensive showcase of digital technology. The North American products earn their name by incorporating 'wow' features found only on high-end devices. They are the latest additions to NAVIGON's award-winning and successful 2100 series line.

(Photo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20080304/AQTU163)

Features include a widescreen 4.3 format, spoken driving directions via text to speech, and NAVIGON's exclusive Reality View(TM), which provides 3D guidance when approaching highway interchanges. Also new is DirectHelp(TM), a feature that pinpoints a user's location and provides instant links to nearby services such as hospitals, pharmacies, and roadside assistance.

Significantly, the 2100 max series devices launch in concert with NAVIGON's groundbreaking FreshMaps service. FreshMaps provides up to 12 map and POI updates in three years. Updates have been field-tested and validated by NAVTEQ, the leading digital map provider. An industry first, FreshMaps ensures data accuracy with regular access to up-to-date, field-verified map data and point of interest content. The updates are available online through a simple download process.

The NAVIGON 2100 max ships with maps of the continental U.S. while the NAVIGON 2120 max features maps of the U.S. and Canada. The standard NAVIGON 2100 max device sells online and in stores for $299 (MSRP). The 2120 max is limited to distribution in Canada and sells for $329 CAD.

"NAVIGON is building on the same product strategy that drove our success last year. We are committed to providing GPS systems with features that are relevant to the navigation experience," said Andreas Hecht, NAVIGON's President for the Americas. "We believe we have raised the bar with a competitively priced, feature-packed GPS device."

The NAVIGON 2100 max and NAVIGON 2120 max units feature a slim, stylish piano-black housing and an anti-glare 4.3" touchscreen display. Beautifully rendered 2D and 3D map views and an easy to navigate user interface provide users with an unmatched level of detail and information, including branded POIs, speed warnings and Lane Assistant. Predictive text and city-first or street-first data entry, route planning, as well as millions of pre-loaded POIs, help make destination entry quick and simple.

Key features include: -- DirectHelp(TM): provides instant access to directions and phone numbers of emergency services at the touch of a button. Finds the nearest hospital, police station, tow truck company or pharmacy, and indicates your exact location to help these services locate you. -- Reality View(TM): exclusive and available only on NAVIGON devices, Reality View provides 3D, photo-realistic virtual reality views of complex interchanges, complete with road geometry and actual road sign text. -- Text-to-Speech: provides specific, clearly spoken driving directions and actual street names in a variety of languages. -- Lane Assistant: provides simple to view lane guidance to assist drivers in making the correct upcoming maneuver. -- Automatic Speed Warnings: indicates posted speed limit and notifies driver with visual and verbal warnings when driver is speeding. -- Route Planning: allows users to plot a route with multiple waypoints -- a feature found only on high-priced competitor devices.

NAVIGON's 2100 series devices can be augmented with accessories that include:

-- NAVIGON FreshMaps: Up to 12 quarterly map updates over three years; works on all NAVIGON GPS devices and sells for MSRP $79.99. -- NAVIGON Lifetime Traffic (SM): Real-time traffic updates, including traffic flow, incidents and alternate routes for the lifetime of the product. Optional accessory with MSRP of $99.99. -- ZAGAT Survey(R) Ratings and Reviews: ZAGAT listings for U.S. hotels, resorts and spas, restaurants, golf courses, as well as attractions and nightlife in 70+ U.S. cities help users make informed destination choices. Optional accessory with MSRP of $39.99. About NAVIGON

NAVIGON INC. is one of the world's leading providers of navigation products and software solutions. NAVIGON makes its own navigation brand consumer products and creates software solutions for OEM customers operating in personal navigation, wireless, and automotive sectors. Founded in 1991, NAVIGON employs more than 400 people in Europe, North America and Asia. For more information, visit http://www.navigon.com/ or http://www.experiencenavigon.com/.
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ASUS does DisplayLink with VW223B 22-inch LCDHard to go wrong with a little bit of DisplayLink, and ASUS giving its VW223B the full USB treatment. The 1680 x 1050 display can accept a VGA plug, but the real magic happens over USB. You can plug up to six of these monitors into your PC and run them at full resolution, and the VW223B even includes a few USB plugs to help with the daisy-chain. The 5ms response time and 3000:1 sweeten the deal. No word on price or availability just yet, but we're starting to get a serious DisplayPort hankering up in here.
Gallery: ASUS does DisplayLink with VW223B 22-inch LCD

Rock officially offering Blu-ray (and HD DVD, still) drives on laptops
Although Rock began offering a Blu-ray option on its pricey gaming rigs soon after Toshiba threw in the HD DVD towel, prospective buyers were forced to specifically inquire in order to get one. Now, however, the company has finally bit the bullet and began offering internal BD drives as an option on its gamut of gaming laptops. Reportedly, Rock's CEO Nick Boardman proclaimed that he was "disappointed that HD DVD didn't make it," but noted that even if you have a machine on order right now, you can "stick with HD DVD, downgrade to DVD-RW or upgrade to Blu-ray" sans issue. Interestingly, the company is still offering up HD DVD drives as "standard," but we suppose it has to move that suddenly worthless inventory somehow, eh?
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Rock Band drum kit modded for pencil use
We've already seen a real drum kit modded for use with Rock Band, but that's unsurprisingly not the only bit of customization going on, as evidenced by this considerably scaled down kit created by David Yoon. While he hasn't provided a complete how-to, we're guessing quite a few folks out there will be able to follow his lead, with the mod consisting primarily of some felt covered tin lids, a pair of CDs and some foam for the foot pedal, and a couple of new piezo transducers from Radio Shack that replace the stock ones. Put that all together and you'll be reliving your desk-tapping days from high school in no time.



Complicated fix for overworked Rock Band drums
It's no secret that Rock Band hardware has experienced its fair share of failures, and while the kick pedal has caused the lion's share of grief on the drums, we're pretty sure at least some of you out there have thoroughly ruined those heads. If so, the similarly bummed folks over at Official Xbox Magazine have a possible solution. We'll be honest -- the "fix" described in the read link below isn't for the faint of heart, but if you're too impatient to take your problems up with Harmonix, find the smallest screwdriver you can and have at it.



Rock Band standalone drum kit now shipping in US and Canada
If you've been hankering after some Rock Band but hesitant to buy the full bundle because you've already got a couple Guitar Hero controllers lying around, or you've just beaten your existing drum kit to pieces, you're in luck -- Harmonix is now shipping the Rock Band Drum Kit to stores in the US and Canada, just a little bit later then we'd heard. The kit will retail for $80, which isn't all that bad -- especially considering the myriad alternate uses for the triggers once you get bored of playing "Maps" over and over again. Expect it to pop up soon in US stores, with a 2-8 week delay before it hits Canadian shelves.



DIY musical gear: just add talent
While browsing the 'net recently, we came across three separate DIY / mod articles (all stemming from our friends at Make) related to musical instruments, and realized that if combined... it's almost a band (or at least the White Stripes). The first is a step-by-step guide to making your own Rock Band-esque drum triggers that can interface with your PC, allowing you to perform freestyle -- though you can still bang away at games with them. The second experiment lets you add USB to a standard electric guitar, thus enabling you to record directly out of your Firebird (or other axe) straight to disk, reducing your time in the studio and freeing up your schedule for rehab. Finally, if you've got a USB guitar, you'll probably want some effects as well -- we suggest making them yourself using the handy kits in the link below. Okay, so it's not technically a band quite yet, but with a little elbow grease, questionable hairstyles, and a cash-embezzling manager, you'll be on your way to a Behind the Music (or passing reference on Pitchfork) in no time.



Rock Band mod adds actual guitar string, touch of class to axe
For Rock Band players that have also had some experience with a bona fide six-string, getting used to that plastic strum bar can take some work. For one gamer in particular, he decided to spend that time doing something a bit more productive than getting acclimated, like adding in an actual guitar string. There's also a switch mechanism that gets triggered by said string, which then sends an input to the game. Pretty swank, we say -- check out the video for yourself after the jump!



Wii coming to Rock Band, Rock Band Premium Microphone not coming to Wii
We're chalking this up to mixed PR signals, but a spokesperson for PDP -- makers of that Rock Band Premium Microphone we caught the other day sporting a Wii logo -- just let us know it was an accident, and that the mic isn't compatible with the Wii after all. Of course, the only reason we cared is that the logo signaled the arrival of Rock Band on the Wii -- which we now know is happening anyway -- so the only people disappointed here should be those of you who wanted to experience Wii Rock Band with "premium" third-party accessories. So... too bad for three of you. We regret your loss. Now if you'll excuse us, we have to get back to mastering the drums on "Tom Sawyer."



EA's CEO nonchalantly mentions "coming launch" of Rock Band for Wii
Finally got around to trading in that raincheck for your very own Wii? Good. Ready to pick up Rock Band? Believe it or not, we think we know that the aforementioned title is indeed headed to Nintendo's darling -- that's according to EA's CEO John Riccitiello, who was reportedly heard mentioning its "coming launch" on a recent conference call. Apparently, IGN even went the extra mile and pinged EA for additional confirmation (and got it), and while no details surrounding a release date, price or wicked new setlist were uncovered, at least you've got a few ticks to start scrounging up spare change.


Rock Band instruments pursuing solo careers February 12th
In a bit of shocking news today, two members of the Rock Band instruments set (drums, guitar) have declared that come February 12th, they're going solo. Citing "creative differences," and the original bundled guitar's inability to "clean up its act," the two solo pieces will be on their own and available for $79.99 and $59.99, respectively. This should come as good tidings for players who've had trouble getting a bass into the mix (PlayStation 3 gamers), or those who've wanted to rock the drum vs. drum match-ups. No word on whether the microphone will join the fray and walk out on the trio, though rumor has it a number of labels are ready with offers.



Rock Band Stage Kit with lights, smoke leaked by GameStop
As if playing Rock Band wasn't one of the greatest group gaming experiences to come along in years, it appears that a new accessory is set to amp up the fun even more by bringing an "interactive light and smoke stage show" to your already thrashing performances. Apparently you can already pre-order this so-called Rock Band Stage Kit from GameStop for 100 bucks, although they've since pulled the box image from the product page, so you'll have to rely on the screencap above to see what you're paying all that money for. Ships on June 23rd, according to the retailer's site, giving us plenty of time to install a proper stage and stadium seating in our game room.



Ion Audio shows off prototype of alternate Rock Band drum set at CES
The fine folks at Ion Audio are showing off a prototype Rock Band drum set complete with beefier drums and some cymbals out on the CES show floor. Apparently release is pending on customer interest, and there's no word on how much Ion's planning on charging, but we can say with much certainty that we'd jump at a chance to add this kit to the existing Engadget HQ collection of Rock Band paraphernalia. Check out Engadget Spanish for the full on gallery experience.



Mad Catz signs on to make Rock Band instruments, accessories
While Activision and Harmonix bicker over the real reason there's still some lingering incompatibility between the two, Mad Catz has inked a multi-year licensing agreement with MTV Networks to "produce and distribute game peripherals and other products" for Rock Band. Reportedly, the third-party peripheral maker has secured the rights to "manufacture, market and sell game accessories, including both wired and wireless bass guitars, a drum percussion set bundled with professional quality wooden drum sticks, and a wired microphone." All in all, we're stoked to see another player entering the Rock Band hardware game, so here's to hoping Mad Catz won't ship out any faulty axes and frail drum pedals during "the first half of 2008."
Use real drums as Rock Band drum controller (how meta)
The Rock Band drum kit really feels more like the real thing than the toy guitars rocking gaming's world of late. So how deliciously meta is it that one enterprising chap decided to convert what appears to be a nice looking real drum kit into a Rock Band drum controller, so he can play a video game pretending to play drums using real drums. If you're not content with just upgrading your pedal to the real deal, and you'd rather not wait for the full replacement kit, consider turning the storage-lockered evidence of your failed college band into something you can be really proud of. Who knows, maybe one day you'll want to revert it back and put the band back together again.

[Via Joystiq]

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Rock Band drum kit mod.

I dismantled an original Rock Band drum kit, replaced the smallish stock piezo transducers with bigger ones from Radio Shack, and stuck them to felt-covered tin lids using double-sided tape before mounting them on little foam feet. The foot pedal is simply two CDs sandwiching some foam--stepping on it places two bare wires in contact. Anyway, this setup lets me bang away on Expert (okay, Hard) with two jumbo Ticonderoga pencils at 2am without waking my neighbor. Yay!
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Rock Band drum kit modded for pencil use
We've already seen a real drum kit modded for use with Rock Band, but that's unsurprisingly not the only bit of customization going on, as evidenced by this considerably scaled down kit created by David Yoon. While he hasn't provided a complete how-to, we're guessing quite a few folks out there will be able to follow his lead, with the mod consisting primarily of some felt covered tin lids, a pair of CDs and some foam for the foot pedal, and a couple of new piezo transducers from Radio Shack that replace the stock ones. Put that all together and you'll be reliving your desk-tapping days from high school in no time.
SanDisk Sansa Fuze leaked?Accessory maker HandStands appears to have a Sansa Fuze 3-in-1 accessory kit -- but SanDisk doesn't yet have a Sansa Fuze, you feeling us? We don't know much more than that at this point, but from what we can see it's either a big mix-up, a not-half-bad photoshop, or a forthcoming player that looks to take on the iPod classic with flash, not drive. Full-size ad version after the break.
read

[Thanks, Josh]
Rock officially offering Blu-ray (and HD DVD, still) drives on laptopsAlthough Rock began offering a Blu-ray option on its pricey gaming rigs soon after Toshiba threw in the HD DVD towel, prospective buyers were forced to specifically inquire in order to get one. Now, however, the company has finally bit the bullet and began offering internal BD drives as an option on its gamut of gaming laptops. Reportedly, Rock's CEO Nick Boardman proclaimed that he was "disappointed that HD DVD didn't make it," but noted that even if you have a machine on order right now, you can "stick with HD DVD, downgrade to DVD-RW or upgrade to Blu-ray" sans issue. Interestingly, the company is still offering up HD DVD drives as "standard," but we suppose it has to move that suddenly worthless inventory somehow, eh?

[Via Tech Digest]
ASUS does DisplayLink with VW223B 22-inch LCDHard to go wrong with a little bit of DisplayLink, and ASUS giving its VW223B the full USB treatment. The 1680 x 1050 display can accept a VGA plug, but the real magic happens over USB. You can plug up to six of these monitors into your PC and run them at full resolution, and the VW223B even includes a few USB plugs to help with the daisy-chain. The 5ms response time and 3000:1 sweeten the deal. No word on price or availability just yet, but we're starting to get a serious DisplayPort hankering up in here.
Navigon's new 2100 Max and 2120 Max do GPS widescreenThat 8110 flagship isn't the only new GPS device Navigon brought to CeBIT, and lucky for us the 2100 Max and 2120 Max are North America-bound. The "Max" aspect of these units refers to the new 4.3-inch widescreen touch displays -- the regular old 2100 only had a 3.5-inch screen. You'll still have to look further up Navigon's product line for perks like traffic info and Bluetooth, but 4.3-inches of GPS for $299 is nothing to sneeze at. The 2120 adds Canadian maps and sells for $329 CAD. Both devices can also work with Navigon's new FreshMaps subscription service, which updates your maps quarterly for the next three years for $79, and you can also pick up an add-on accessory for live traffic updates for $99. No word yet on when these will be shipping.